20% off DD Hammocks - Group buy on BCUK

[GadgetUK437]

Just in case anyone has missed it.
The Bushcraft UK forum do a regular group buy of DD Hammocks gear, 20% off is not to be sniffed at!
Hurry though, limited spaces.

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=138239

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Gadget.

[Meadows]

Has any one seen their super light tarp in the flesh, have they lightened the tie outs compared to the standard tarps?

[bopdude]

Has any one seen their super light tarp in the flesh, have they lightened the tie outs compared to the standard tarps?

No but of all the reviews I've seen and vids I've watched all were positive bar 1, I've ordered one for light trips, plus a 4x4 for longer stays

[GadgetUK437]

I've ordered an underblanket, for my jungle modular (hoping to coax the missus out when the weather warms up).
Only a couple of days left, if you are at all interested.

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Gadget.

[bopdude]

I'm having a change of heart, going by last weekend's events, I would rather the extra 500g for the extra shelter, going for the 4.5 x 3m instead of the other 2 ??

[GadgetUK437]

going by last weekend's events

Don't leave us hangin', there's a story there!

[bopdude]

Don't leave us hangin', there's a story there!

It was the fact that my son had better side coverage with a 3x3, I was using my Sargasso for only the second time and it seems that to close the doors off you have to have a steeper pitch if you follow, we woke up to a snow flurry, he was out of it, my kit was being hit by it, the extra footprint size 'seemed' to be massive, I think I feel a test coming on with the Sargasso ?

[Meadows]

What are the dims for the sagas so? I've got the 4.5×3 dd and it is big even with doors closed. I wish I'd got the 4×4 for extra width though

[bopdude]

What are the dims for the sagas so? I've got the 4.5×3 dd and it is big even with doors closed. I wish I'd got the 4×4 for extra width though

They're 3.9 x 2.5m so yeah, I know I'm losing out by 500mm on the width, you wouldn't have thought 250mm a side would make that much difference........ ? Now on the group by I'm just about to change my mind, I was going for the 4 x 4 but thought of going for the 4.5 x 3, so you reckon it's worth the weight and size to go big BIG ? now I'm thinking again lol

[GadgetUK437]

I've been using the Sargasso for a while now, and I can say it's an odd fish. It is too long and not wide enough.
At 3.9m long, it is a fair bit longer than the ridgeline on my hammock; so I can't pitch it low enough to reach the ground and block the wind, especially as it is narrow.

My DD 4x4, no problems, although it is long, so sits a fair bit higher than my SRL, it makes up for it by having plenty of width.... but it is heavy!

I think you will have similar issues with the 4.5x3m DD. Because it is a fair bit longer, you won't be able to pitch it as low, and the extra half metre will be wasted.

I am in the process of making my ideal tarp, at 3.45m long it will be just a foot longer than my hammock at each end, so I will be able to hang it low enough to pitch right to the ground (to block the wind) despite being less than 3m wide.
Here's a pic to make it a bit clearer (I hope),

[Bowlin]

Interesting, but surely it is a case of 'horses for courses'? I currently have 8 tarps (of differing sizes/ materials/ weights etc.) and select which to use depending upon the Season and expected (or at least forecast) weather conditions. For example I wouldn't take my canvas 3x3m tarp out on a Summer trip but equally I wouldn't take my Sargasso out in snowy/ windy conditions.

As with most (all?) hammock/ bushcraft gear as much as we'd like to find equipment which is perfect in all situations it doesn't exist. (Which is why I have 8 tarps, 12 different pots/pans, 4 different stoves, 4 different sleeping bags, 3 different ground cloths etc. etc. etc.)

Happily the answer is to research and buy more gear!!!!

Cheers
Steve

[bopdude]

Interesting drawing Gadget, and it's lead to an idea, a SRL attached to the hammock suspension at such a point to give the 3.5m needed for the TW Sargasso, or different for other tarps, I'm thinking loop aliens on the whoopie slings ? what does anyone think, doable or will it make the tarp too low ?

[bopdude]

Thinking about it,it would have to be a whoopie made slightly longer so the loop alien wasn't on part of the adjustment, any more thoughts, am I totally wrong with this idea ?

[GadgetUK437]

a SRL attached to the hammock suspension at such a point to give the 3.5m needed for the TW Sargasso, or different for other tarps,

Of course. Combining hammock and tarp suspension is entirely do-able, and has been, to varying degrees of success.
Two issues you need to address in a Single Line Suspension system (SLS);

• What happens when you weight the hammock, depending on how things are strung, the tarp ridgeline sags or tightens, both with undesirable consequences for the tarp. Some have used shock cord to compensate for this.
• You can't adjust the height above the hammock as easily. I often pitch high and airy firstly, to enjoy the view, then when it gets cold or windy drop the tarp ridgeline down the trees to get more coverage.

will it make the tarp too low ?

You cannot pitch a tarp lower than your hammock suspension (as long as you keep your suspension at the recommended 30°), unless you cut a hole in your tarp and poke the suspension thru'!!
How long is your hammock and how long is its SRL? Do you hang at 30°?

[bopdude]

Of course. Combining hammock and tarp suspension is entirely do-able, and has been, to varying degrees of success.
Two issues you need to address in a Single Line Suspension system (SLS);

• What happens when you weight the hammock, depending on how things are strung, the tarp ridgeline sags or tightens, both with undesirable consequences for the tarp. Some have used shock cord to compensate for this.
• You can't adjust the height above the hammock as easily. I often pitch high and airy firstly, to enjoy the view, then when it gets cold or windy drop the tarp ridgeline down the trees to get more coverage.

Yes, I see what your saying about the hammock under load and empty causing problems, normally I'll pitch the tarp and that's it, never gets moved.

You cannot pitch a tarp lower than your hammock suspension (as long as you keep your suspension at the recommended 30°), unless you cut a hole in your tarp and poke the suspension thru'!!
How long is your hammock and how long is its SRL? Do you hang at 30°?

My go to hammock is the DD superlite, it's +/- 2.4m if and when I use a SRL it's a whoopie so adjustable but the marker on it for 83% is 2,220m iirc and if I do hang at 30° it's by accident lol

EDIT, just cked it and it's 1.992 but adjustable like I said, to be fair though it's hardly used, probably twice ?